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Post by Neal on Oct 3, 2007 13:18:54 GMT -5
Just wondering if any of you believe in ghosts, UFO's, bigfoot etc.
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Post by Riren Voorhees on Oct 4, 2007 1:24:12 GMT -5
A UFO is just an unidentified flying object, not necessarily an extraterrestrial space craft. I certainly believe we see stuff in the sky that we can't identify at the time. I don't believe in extraterrestrial invaders, though if I were an alien and knew the first thing about life on earth, I damn sure wouldn't let them know I was here. Earth's species make scary neighbors, even for each other.
The possibility for extraterrestrial forms of existence, though, I wholeheartedly support. There are so many planets in this universe, so many environments with their own mixtures of molecules, solar heat and geothermy. Evolution could have happened somewhere else, or something completely different. We barely understand how genes and evolution work as it is right now and we're the product of such things, so if something completely different was happening somewhere else it would only make sense that we'd have no clue about it. I almost hope there is another form of life somewhere out there that gets interested in the search for truth and meaning, since I don't think human species will make it to the finishing line in those games.
I'm open to something like a ghost existing. Some kind of energy, detached soul or other unidentifiable thing left behind - maybe. I've had a couple of weird experiences that have left me open to the possibility, and keep me from being a dick to believers (can't stand that sort of person).
Of course, I've got that ultimate supernatural belief, the one in God. Or what I call God, since it isn't a bearded sky-father who kicks your ass for eating pork. Since it's not a religious belief it should disappoint both fundamental religious types and snarky atheists. It's not just because I've had some amazing waking experiences that couldn't have all been hallucinations, or because of meditation and medication. At its most base it's a belief in objectivity outside of my little subjective bubble of eyes, ears and other senses, and in experiences beyond instinct, emotion and reason - after all, the reasoning part of the brain is a recent development in evolution. How I'd love to see the day that something on earth evolves to the next experience after instinct, emotion and reason, just to know what it would be like. That's sort of my stand on the supernatural - yeah, it's a genre where we play with ogres and vampires, but it's also an admission of things we don't know, won't know in our lifetimes and possibly just can't know. Because "nature" is just the label we put on what we understand; if we discovered a race of bigfoot creatures, we'd study them and they'd become a part of our big nature umbrella. And in that sense I guess my belief in God isn't supernatural, because my belief is that God is nature - the perfect nature, with everything we've figured out, everything we haven't and everything we can't, all patient, and waiting for us to try.
Now I'm not sure whether or not to post this. If it's offensive or off topic or whatever, go ahead and delete it.
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Post by wulf on Oct 4, 2007 14:52:04 GMT -5
I just think it's far more interesting and desirable to live in a world where that sort of thing exists therefore I choose to believe.
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Post by loverofbeers on Sept 4, 2011 2:28:43 GMT -5
I was always a skeptic especially about ghosts and UFOs.
I am convinced that a house I lived in for a year in college was evil. Something homicidal was there, but I'll save my stories and my roommates, friends, and neighbor's stories for another time. All sad and disturbing stories. I have always been a great pet caretaker. All my pets of years were dead within six months of moving in as well as all of the pets of my two roommates. And there was a fire that started when a candle fell on top of a beanbag chair. And what I found buried in the yard convinced me that the house had been killing since before we moved in. A very bad scene....
I worked at the Gingerman, a draughthouse with 83 taps of beer, in Austin, which has since moved a block away. The old building now is a bar called "The Ghost Room". That place is haunted by a pussy-ass poltergeist that fucked with the wrong person, cheery little me. I tormented that dead bastard, and gave him back much more than I received. At the age of thirty I started to believe in ghosts, if not I have only been schitzophrenic (heard voices in my head) constantly in only two specific spots of only one building in downtown Austin, for only three years of my life.
On Youtube this year I discovered The UFO Disclosure movement. After hours of watching vids, its the Senators, Governors, Presidents, Generals, pilots, ground control operators, astronauts, cosmonauts, and numerous types of scientific field specialists that have changed my mind, as well as NASA footage of "anomalies", "water dropletts", "ice", "dust", and other strange apparently self-propelling and curious objects.
Oh, youtube the Jerusalem UFO footage. Four separate videos from different areas of the city all showing the same object hovering, flashing bright, and zooming straight up and out of view. My skeptic ass believes.
I am skeptical of Sasquatch, Nessie, Champ, the brontosaurus in the Congo, and the pterodactyls or thunderbirds of West Texas and the US Southwest. But I hope they are all real anyway!
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